Thanks! Why is there no option to calculate Span Margin for BN wekly options? 07/03/2014 F&O Obligation Amount Credit 4286.960 But it’s strange yesterday it was not showing. The overall position has no net downside risk (any downside in Futures covered fully with the PE options which by themselves are risk-free) Upside “risk” is my potential payoff (rather than the exchange’s), Yet the SPAN calculator calculates a pretty large margin requirement for BOTH exposure margin and SPAN (again, there is no statistical risk). 1. WE NEED THIS FOR WEEKLY CONTRACTS AS WELL. 2. Thanks Nitin. Pretty much nothing that we can do here , sir Dear Nithin, I need to know one thing whether zerodha can trade with client money without the client permission. 4. im just able to buy only with my own amount. When checking Margin required for shorting June Put it shows – Span: 40,819, Exposure margin: 23,257, Premium receivable: 17,494 & Total margin: 64,076 Just wanted to know when we do intraday trading using MIS we are given more leverage by Zerodha which in turn enables us to trade with more volume of shares. Sir, Could you pls clarify this instance? For getting option margin benefit do we need to sell both positions in one order or both can be sold separately during the same trading day in different orders ?? Options are very complex financial instruments and giving leverage on the buy side could put you and the broker in jeopardy.”. Can i use futures as covered position too sell calls? See the example below for Nifty November futures margin requirement. Yes the margins applicable are for overnight positions. Mohan, while buying options there is no concept called margins. Sir, Can I sell stock option & hold it till expiry? For example CIPLA MAY FUT shows different exposure margin (Buying price per lot) to that showing in Zerodha while buying which is way more ..Please help . What I was under the impression is that, MTM losses would be adjusted against the exposure margin first and when total margin falls or nears to SPAN one will get a margin call (I had refereed varsity section-futures trading, mark to market chapter). thank u,when i put 3L order why the message below gets. 2. So yeah, total margins should be more or less the same with ICICI. Option buying only requires you to pay the premium. Effectively you didn't reply my different query concerning test dated on unfavorable margin day and deposit on subsequent working Something wrong in this example of FNO trade margin reporting - F&O - Trading Q&A by Zerodha - Options Call Today Is there any issue now (29 Jan 2014). Zerodha Currency Margin. When you’re writing an option, the premium has nothing to do with the margin requirement. Strategies that I hesitated to execute, fearing my trading costs are now within my reach. 2.222X — Index Option Sell: Margin required is 35% of the normal margin. If you are starting off, advise you to check out: http://zerodha.com/varsity/. I could find only the near, next and far term contracts in the F&O margin calculator. sir Hi…. ******* 352354.750 No, you’ll have to wait for expiry or find a seller to buy back from mid-month. Regards, Since it involves multiple transactions, the formula to calculate margin on calendar spread is the following. STATUS – REJECTED So when exchanges calculate margin, they have to factor in all that risk. 25742. and one lot purchased at 9.30 am, one at 9.40 am, one 9.50 am so & so. Why do I not get a creadit for call sale premium? I am not able to see MIS Vs NRML margin requirements. Anand it is working fine on google chrome, some issue with firefox, and internet explorer. Similar to your stock holding, you can sell the T1 holdings (stocks bought the previous day and yet to be credited to your Demat) and use the entire value of the proceeds to buy new stocks for delivery. Is it matched with the rate quoted by the buyers? buying the option is called buyer/ holder of the option and the party taking a short position i.e. Could not find this detail anywhere. It means that it requires 67 times of premium. period and is applied on the notional value of position. Would that be zero margin to sell call on the future posotion? I am not able to calculate the margin for same month expiry options in SPAN calC. Please not, my buy order is already executed. Do note that you need to click on Sell after entering the net quantity if you want to see the option writing margin requirement. I guess exchanges are trying to reason it out with SEBI. Am I missing something. Hi Nithin, Many of the features of Nest Trader (PC) are not available on Mobile (Android). Can you please Weekly options into the list? Total Margin = Span/initial margin + Exposure margi. Little tricky Hey Saravana, the margin requirements for the weekly and monthly contracts are identical. Am i doing something wrong or the system just doesn’t compute for weekly expiry as of yet ? Anil what the SPAN shows is what our exchanges ask for. Is margin benefit available for commodity contracts in mega and mini quantities? 7000 CE currently is trading at 900 Rs. Hi, In your Span calculator @ https://zerodha.com/margin-calculator/SPAN/, not all commodities are listed under MCX. bro me b itne din se isika soluation dund rha hu.. koi dang se btata hi nai uper support team ko kabi phone hi nai lagta kabi galti se phone lag b jaye to unke pas information hi nai he kuch.. pareshan ho gye he ek month se jyada ho gya sebi k new rules ko per ab hume benefits nai de rhe zerodha vale. is it so? Yes, it is for shorted positions. It doesn’t make any sense and believe me in other brokerage firms you can easily sell a call without any extra margin if you hold a position in nifty. So SPAN margin as per the calculation rules on the website should not change. Does this mean a person having long contract in futures has to keep adding on margin money when the contract value is increasing in value? For example to sell a 10-lot of .04 delta puts in SPY, assuming it’s cash secured, $189,000 would be needed to satisfy the margin requirement! Margin for shorting 6100 calls: 23687 So you will need sufficient margin to enter these individually. 2) If incase during the middle of the month, stock price goes up by 20%, do i need any additional capital or not? The margin requirements for the weekly and monthly contracts are similar, Debashis. Why is zerodha charging very high margin. Strike is 200. Lot Size 50 What to do for getting margin benefit on spread like strategy ? ITS ONLY I BUY CALL OR PUT ONLY FOR INTRADAY. Rs. Please check and advise. its not working , I tried many times after putting value its not giving any result . If I enter another order for selling at 6100 it requires additional margin. Have answered that query: Guess this issue had happened because you had looked at Q while the trade process was running in the evening. TOTAL 52910, COMBINE MARING REQUIREMENT BOX Is this not too very high? i was charged the margin for 20 lots. Days to Expiry = 10, I Sell PUT 1 Lot of Strike Price 6500 at 10Rs premium each. i.e. Demat holding: 1000 Cipla I was wondering if you use only the 16th scenario. I was trying to calculate the margin requirements using the below link of Zerodha: https://zerodha.com/margin-calculator/SPAN. Such a position is completely hedged, and hence has hardly any risk. We will soon have this available on Q itself. The following post explains various ways in which F&O margin calculator can be used. Read our Margin Policy for more. 8,422 (Total margin) Please revert. for ex. Harshit, after midnight we will be running our back end process when the SPAN calculator might be down. Please update the SPAN calculator for margin calculation of those index contracts whose option buying has been recently enabled. No not possible for your second query. So if SPAN required is 7568, around Rs 11000(when your account balance comes down from 30000 to 11000) is probably when our RMS team will start reducing your position. How does the mark to market work for written calls (closing price of stock or last traded price for the call)? It’s possible to add multi-leg strategies. Seems to work fine. Why is the margin calculator not considering the LTP? Its working fine, if I go with sell first, still Buy first problem exists. Hmm.. on Now the payment gateway is available only for Axis and HDFC. I am trying to find out margin benefit by adding futures and options. 6900 PE, it is showing a negative amount, is there something wrong with the tool. For example when you would have done a turnover of Rs 84000 in options, it could mean for example buy and sell of 20 lots of Nifty options trading at Rs 40. You will get margin benefit only once both the positions are taken. Kindly let me know the margin requirement. Nitin would appreciate an update on this. span calculator not showing weekly expiry dates of bank nifty, I observed that margin requirements for banknifty is shown only for monthly expiry and not for weekly expiry. Now , in the calculate , I give cash available as 6586 , so it shows that I can buy 3 lot , how it is calculated ? Then who all will decide the premium I will collect for writing this option. TIME – 2016-12-05 09:49:04 For Intraday, you’ll need 40% of the overnight margins as shown on the calculator. . If i want to trade in Futures margin, eg: If i want to buy Unitech 1 lot in Futures margin(buy today and sell on before Expiry) what is the amount required as am confused with Futures Intraday and Futures Margin, Thanks in advance for your help and support. This gives a free cash of Rs. Since the OMS is not our in house product, can’t really give you an answer. There should be a new release in the next 10 days. In my portifolio MIS transcation charges deducting 70 rupees/ 1 transaction. Wanted to know when will the Weekly Nifty & Bank Nifty be available in the margin calculator. I would like to know how much margin I require to short nifty and banknifty atm options for intraday only. For short options it is showing. Margins for the weekly and monthly contracts are the same, refer to the monthly contract margin requirements. Sir, I want to sell bank nifty call and put options . But still option buy requires full cash and you need to have free cash in your account to buy options. Hey Som, 3) What is physical delivery? But it becomes tedious when I enter more than 3-4 options as I have to back-calculate everything. Find below a quick summary; you can check this post to know the details. Thanks Nithin. 36 =2700 and sale 75*65=4875 on 30.04.2020. Regards. However, in the current case, the margin requirement could have gone up from say 50% of the contract value to higher, hence the additional margin requirement. check & rectify. Since yesterday, the Margin Calculator is showing the result as NaN. That said, there could be upto 10% difference up or down. The Span calculator is not working. The “Total Margin” is the NRML margin. 27,580. If I buy an at-the-money NIFTY put and a NIFTY future, both with same expiry, say April 2014. Even so, if the margins for an option spread are THIS high, it defeats the purpose of the spread. Margin required is 35% of the normal margin. However, the logic given to defend this unreasonable margin charge by NSE is not rational. I have 100000 Rs Margin benefit through pledged shares. Pls explains reasons. sir, bank nifty option , strike rate 17000 call and put and nifty stike 7800 call and put –sell option for both and the carry overnight, please tell me the approximate the the margin money required. ICICI Direct blocks 80 k for Nifty and 1.2 lac for BankNifty. NIFTY Jan16 7500 BUY, I am having 60k in amount, definitely more than above combined. Repeat DEC 2016. In you want to use the margin calculator, you can use te monthly contract margin for the weekly contracts. You can check…. The formula for SPAN calculation is proprietary to CME and the exchange has only licensed this from them. Am I right? Since from longs days there is problem. I will be highly obliged,if explained reason behind it. Why don’t you keep current version F&O margin calculator untill new update ready to deploy. Having this checked. I bought one lot of HIND ZINC Mar.Fut.for which I paid margins as per your norms,later I bought 5 lots of Call option of the same stock @avg.price of Rs.1.99. I am unable to understand that how much money I have to transfer in my trading account so as I can square off my position myself on Monday or Tuesday or Wednesday or on expiry date. (2) In case of non-payment, What will be the Penalty for this Shortage? Karnataka Stamp duty….ooo1% For Crudeoil but zerodha brokerage calucalator showing 0003…,,,Taxn charges…showing…also More…………. Can I get list of all option contracts where no exposure margin is required. But if there is any MTM losses, we need you to make good of it before next day. Hi Sir, if i want to sell/write 1lot nifty 31st March 7400CE on 25th Feb keeping the total margin (37400 INR using the SPAN calculator) can i hold it for 25-30 days and buy it on the 4th week of March? In my example above SPAN Margin shown in Zerodha calculator smaller than PC SPAN Software. Total margin ? will i get any type of intraday limit to trade in future or option. I want to buy bajajfin 2100 call and sell bajajfin 2500 call in calculater is showing margin 18000 is it right ?! So, for MTM, you first adjust with free cash and then with exposure margin. Sir, Can I use my existing stocks (Purchased for long term) as collateral for margin requirements? Have checked now again and this seems to be working fine now. HI SIR 3. You can check out the margin calculator to know the margin requirements. You can check this link on SPAN methodology. Thank you SO much, i Would like to open account with Zerodha, DO we have call and trade option, If i send all mandatory documents , in how many days account will be opened and when can i trade. Yes, you can sell on or before expiry date. Why is margin so high on writing options as compared to buying/selling futures? Why do I get messages for balance even if by balance is more than 2,28,800/-. PS : Sorry if my previous query was obscure. It is Rs 60,000 – check this: https://zerodha.com/margin-calculator/Futures/, Sir, kya ye margin calculater jo dikhata h zerodha use real me deta h means if a idea share pr vo 7× dikhata h to vo milta hai ya bs simple calculater hi h plz reply…. I am trying to calculate margin for short selling nifty 10600 CE. I have multiple holdings in my portfolio in zerodha. However, if you have some free cash left in your account, in an event when the position goes against you, the free cash will be utilised and a margin call won’t be triggered. if yes it can be NRML, MIS OR BO&CO its working fine now.. it wasnt working after market hours ! But if one gets executed the other won’t get cancelled automatically, you will have to manually cancel the other order. I”m new to options shorting. Options are very complex financial instruments and giving leverage on the buy side could put you and the broker in jeopardy. The 12200 call option closed at 87.3 today. How much i need for selling the stock futures. But do you know the exact rules whereby we can calculate the margin benefit for different portfolios? So, I will get full 750 right? I want to place two MIS orders for Futures Trade. But when I checked Profit & Loss report for 7th March 2014, it shows completely different picture( around profit of INR 15000).? Also I cant see current week BankNifty. By default we can only select monthly contracts. I understand that it is the Exchange that specifies the Margin needs and not you. I have also entered current strike price. Is it the money = diff(put option at that time – the put option value I sold now)? Could you also please clarify, If i buy futures under Normal with Expiry date jan 2015 and if i sell before expiry , amount will be credited on the same day when i sell or do i need to wait till the expiry date, 2) can i sell futures partly( like one lot one time and others at different time). Contacted Zerodha Cust. Please let me the know the best solution. You can calculate your comprehensive margin requirements here. It works the same way for both equity and currency options. If I am Buying/Selling Bank Nifty Futures with BO or CO with 50 points as SL in every trade, then how much margin i need to keep in my account? I then sell an ATM NIFTY call with same expiry. Could you explain(the rationality) why the margin is higher than maximum possible loss on hedged position for the below example. Knowing the margin requirement upfront for such a position is very important to better plan the trade. No one line answer to this, suggest you to go through the option module on Varsity. The way it is designed presently, it can’t take live market quotes, it is on our list of things to do. Thank you for the reply. The SPAN shows the margin required, the premium required to buy options will be separate, so yeah Total Margin + Premium to buy the options. Each lot will cost you 121*75 = 9075. The margins for the monthly and weekly contracts are the same. Any Updates on Leaps (Long term options) of Nifty……..I only see 3 months Nifty options available in the SPAN calculator while in the watchlist we can buy and sell upto 2017 eg I am interested in Dec 2016 option writing. Not necessarily. Now if i refer the link https://zerodha.com/margin-calculator/Futures/, Rs. It must be showing now. I have moved my account to NSE Now but support team not added bank account and after follow up with them 4 to 5 time they move me to kite again but while mean time i can add money and due to 5 day delay form your side they square off my positions which is not my fault, i am ready to pay but they not given me any portal. Will the position be sqauared on auto? SIR I WANT TO CALCULATE MY SELF IN RUNNING MKT. As per your calculator the margin required is 8. Hey Hitesh, check out zerodha.com/margin-calculator. This is already updated. Hi, and buy 8 lot of nifty option like 4 lot of 7300 call, 4 lot of 7700 put @Nithin0dha on Twitter. Please clarfify. You can calculate margin benefit here: https://zerodha.com/margin-calculator/SPAN/, sir case market me nse par margin nh h kya, Hi – Please add weekly bank nifty maturities in margin calculator. profit is there in long position. 27,589 is needed. Note that the account balance on Console may not match with Kite balance as Kite balance will not include unrealized intraday equity profits until T+2 day, while Console will show balance including intraday profits. Margin is anyway always in your account. It means I am having positive balance. Yes, the margin goes up the longer the time to expiry. This would be because the margin requirements to hold the position will have gone up. Is it also possible to write options on the day before options expiry? But as I place bracket order , it is rejecting. This would give better ROI for traders. 3. Cash available – 21000. BUt I am receeving a premium of Rs.10k by writing the spread. I request you to add this simple functionality in calculator. I am trying to calculate the margin required for buying Hero motor Call option for strike 2050 but Zerodha calculator is not showing any money required. First of all, thanks for patiently answering my query, and happy to find someone at an Indian brokerage who understands this topic well enough to engage in an open conversation about it… Since the lower widget doesn’t shows the premium but only the margin amount, I have to rely on the right-side widget to know it. This appears higher than what other brokers e.g ICICI Sec need. Launch ‘PI’ at the earliest possible time, waiting for it . So it has to be the same across various brokers, atleast on overnight positions (brokers offer varying intraday margin requirements). This is my first query post on the blog, I do not know whether this is right place to post or not , as i have seen Mr. Kamat sir explaining to lot of fellow traders , So I hope that I will get chance to interact with Mr .Nitin Kamath sir …, Please, explain following situation with figures…. But,, when I am placing the orders in Kite, after placing first order, second order is getting failed with below reason, tried vice-versa, same error. 4. For December Contract the price of 10,500 are Call: 546.3 & Put: 440.6 More than that, our RMS team can square off the position. However, even until we do this, you can simply look at the margin requirements for the monthly options. Exposure margin Rs. Thanks. Dear Nithin sir, please advise. Please help me on this.. Hi, What will be the margin required for selling premium/options on Intraday any additional leverage if We traded with Bracket-order or MIS? Your NEST Trader software is not at all up to the mark. 17,000+), but still, my question stands !! I had checked this around midnight yesterday. Not able to correlate. and how to calculate it? Sell 4 OTM CALL– Short 4 lot of 31300 BANK NIFTY Regards, Krish. for that i can add money next day. take overnight position. The one currently showing in calculator doesnt match the amount while buyinng in MIS future . But present week expiry banknifty options are note available in the list, Guys, I am looking margin required for weekly Bank Nifty Option Contract, Pls share the list or let me know where i can find it. I am planning to hold both the trades till 17th july. BRACKET ORDER MARGIN CALCULATOR SHOWS PERFECTLY, BUT F&O MARGIN CALCULATOR DOES NOT CALCULATE CALL OPTION MARGIN. Hi, 35000. Hey Ragavendra, cross-margin benefit is only available across different derivative contracts. i discussed with support team but no satisfactory answer received. Now,(1) How long he can keep this Shortage without paying as this shortfall is getting reduced day by day..? Could you share a screenshot of what you are seeing? But there is going to be a small change here if you want to use the proceeds from T1 holdings to trade F&O, you will be able to use only 60% of selling value. many brokers are allowed to their clints. So , how this premium calculation is done ? Please clarify. 10,0000 how much Margin can I leverage to buy nifty Feb series 6000 Futures? Checking why it wasn’t showing before market. Please clarify me that if I buy 10 Lots of XYZ @ Rs. Hi, Or this free cash balance can be utilized for taking another position (like an option / equity stock). Kindly help me by telling the required margin that has to be deposited by me on Monday.Also tell me phone number where ican talk directly regarding my above problem. However, the seller of options is required to maintain a margin. No return left for option writing after taking risk in stock market. No, we have removed the 10% cash rule now. 5paisa margin calculator is an online tool to help you calculate comprehensive span margin requirements for option writing/shorting or for multi-leg F&O strategies while trading in commodity, currency, F&O before taking a trade. whether cross margin benefit is available in this scenario Equity vs options. So in your example, you need only Rs 23850 to buy. NIFTY Buy Call Strike Price 6300 Also please tell me how much money in cash required for selling one lot worth 100 rs. You need 40%, not 60%. Check out http://www.zerodha.com/margin-calculator, Zerodha SPAN and Equity MArgin calulator in ZERODHA.COM Not working for last 3/4 days…Please check. I get another 50 from Zerodha as MIS leverage. also please suggest alternatives to carry out my order of above given specifications…. can anyone explain what the below statement in option margin calculator mean. There’s no reason for it to not show. (If expiry month is different, then it is allowing). For intraday 40% of overnight margins. Plesae rectify and solve the problem asap. Is there any upgrade planned? So you get the entire Rs 100. TILL TO DAY MARGIN CALCULATOR DOES NOT WORK, THERE IS A PROBLEM IN IT OTHERWISE MY MISTAKE,WHICH EVER FROM BOTH PLEASE SOLVE AND GUIDE ME. I have noticed this difference for all stocks and really don’t know if this is a technical glitch. Margin calculator provided data for positional call. SPAN margin is the minimum margin stipulated by exchange. 2. Have read about you on many platforms and your journey has been inspirational. We also provide intraday margins for Option writing as per the futures margins. if i want to go short on banknifty how much should i have if it is 200*40 weekly expiry. Checking this out. For instance Add values on the SPAN to check how much it gets lowered. I couldn’t find it in Calculator. I bought the commodity ALUMINI17JANFUT @ 117.75 on november 30 as NRML. Margin benefit is not displayed. Do we have cross margin facility at Zerodha at different segments? But if I choose hdfc 1260 call writing it’s showing both span and exposure margin. Rs: 16,150 There is a check which says – you are posting too quickly, SLOW DOWN. Add the contracts yourself and see.. What I can tell you is you’ll need full SPAN+exposure margin. Here is it necessary to execute the first buy order or placing the order is sufficient. Calculating future volatility is as good as calling direction in the market. No, margin benefits are only for F&O positions that hedge each other right now. I am new to trading and will be really thankful to you for helping me out. Nithin, i just noted that even though they don’t deduct entire amount from the bank account, they do block the difference in the trading account. Below is the example you have given: NIFTY Sell Call Strike Price 6200 24000/-. Thank You. When a position is taken as NRML, it can be held until expiry provided the required NRML margin is … I noticed there is no exposure margin for options writing on the index for example. Please look into. You can ascertain margins here: https://zerodha.com/margin-calculator/SPAN/.

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